No Qantas International Lounge Access for Oneworld Business Class

No Lounge Access in Australia in Oneworld Business Class Passengers
The Qantas First Lounges are the only international Oneworld lounges currently open in Australia, but Business Class passengers on Oneworld airlines are being turned away. Photo: Qantas.

Business Class passengers departing from Australia on Oneworld airlines other than Qantas are being refused access to the Qantas First Lounges, despite the Qantas Business Lounges being closed indefinitely. In fact, passengers departing from most Australian airports in Business Class on airlines such as Qatar Airways, American Airlines or Cathay Pacific do not currently have access to any lounges at all.

Meanwhile, some Oneworld airlines including Japan Airlines and Malaysia Airlines are sending their Business Class passengers to the inferior Plaza Premium Lounge at Sydney Airport. This is in lieu of Qantas lounge access.

Oneworld lounge access rules

Passengers flying in Business Class on a Oneworld alliance airline can normally access any Business Lounge operated by another Oneworld airline before departure. But all of Qantas’ international Business Lounges in Australia are currently closed.

Qantas’ First Lounges in Sydney and Melbourne are currently open. Under the Oneworld lounge access rules, anyone flying in First Class on a Oneworld airline would have access to the Qantas international First Lounges. Anyone with Oneworld Emerald status (including Qantas Platinum or Platinum One status) would also enjoy First Lounge access when flying with a Oneworld airline in any class of travel.

Qantas is letting most of its own passengers into the First Lounge

While the airline’s international Business Lounges remain closed, Qantas is allowing its Gold frequent flyers, Qantas Club members and Business Class passengers on its own flights into the First Lounges.

Passengers booked on Qantas codeshare flights (with a “QF” flight number) operated by partner airlines, if they would normally have Business Lounge access, are also being welcomed into the First Lounge. (This assumes the Qantas First Lounge is open – which is currently only the case in the hours prior to the departure of a Qantas-operated international flight.)

But this invitation is not being extended to Business Class passengers or Oneworld Sapphire frequent flyers (including Qantas Gold members) travelling out of Australia on other Oneworld airlines. These passengers would ordinarily be entitled to Qantas Business Lounge access, but the international Qantas Business Lounges in Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane airports are currently closed. Therefore, no lounge access is offered at all.

Qantas is also currently not offering access to customers using complimentary Qantas lounge invitations at any of its international lounges in Australia. (These invitations are also not currently accepted at the Gold Coast Qantas Club, for some reason.)

Alternatives for passengers on Oneworld airlines

Last week, an AFF member flew out of Sydney on a Japan Airlines Business Class ticket. Despite being told to go to the Qantas First Lounge at check-in, they were denied entry. (To make matters worse, the Qantas staff told this person that it was because Japan Airlines is not a Oneworld member airline – which is incorrect.)

As an alternative, Japan Airlines Business Class passengers in Sydney currently have access to the much smaller Plaza Premium Lounge. This is the same for Malaysia Airlines passengers.

But Qatar Airways Business Class passengers in Sydney are only being offered $50 worth of food vouchers in lieu of access to any airport lounge.

Star Alliance and SkyTeam lounge access in Australia

In Sydney and Melbourne, Business Class customers and Star Alliance Gold members flying on Star Alliance airlines can enjoy access to the Singapore Airlines lounges (during the hours they are open). This includes eligible passengers on Singapore Airlines, Thai Airways, ANA, Air New Zealand or Asiana. But the Singapore Airlines lounges at other Australian airports including Brisbane are currently closed.

Meanwhile, the SkyTeam Lounge at Sydney’s international terminal is currently closed, but all eligible passengers are being allowed into the neighbouring Plaza Premium Lounge.

In Melbourne, the unaffiliated Marhaba Lounge is also open. So too is The House lounge in Sydney, which is even now accepting Priority Pass (with a $20 surcharge if you want access to the a la carte food menu, premium alcohol and showers).

The Emirates, Air New Zealand and American Express lounges at Sydney and Melbourne airports remain closed for the time being.

 

You can leave a comment or discuss this topic on the Australian Frequent Flyer forum.

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I can see the frustration but this is fair enough.

Whilst the Qantas first lounge is open, normal rules for that lounge apply however as QF have shut their business lounge they're using the first lounge as a contract lounge for their pax who'd normally use the business lounge.

If other oneworld/partner airlines wish to do the same they need to work out a deal with Qantas (the first lounge operator) to also use the first lounge on a contract basis whilst the business lounge is shut or they are more than welcome to work out a contract with a cheaper lounge in the terminal (eg Plaza Premium).

This is no different from when QF shut their LAX lounges and allowed their own passengers to use the Star Alliance lounge (but those on other oneworld airlines were left with nothing) or when Qantas was using the Air New Zealand lounges last year but again this didn't apply to other oneworld partners.

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No Qantas International Lounge Access for Oneworld Business Class is an article written by AFF editorial staff:

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An enhancement perhaps. Will this also apply to sad Adelaide airport which only has the QP for all departures, for those flying on non Qantas One World airlines?

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An enhancement perhaps. Will this also apply to sad Adelaide airport which only has the QP for all departures, for those flying on non Qantas One World airlines?

Not an enhancement, this is just the way the oneworld lounge contracts operate. For that matter it's not just a QF or oneworld related event...

For example in Tokyo, ANA (star alliance) has shut their business lounge and uses the first class lounge for everyone, as a result SQ (the only other star alliance airline operating) has updated their agreement with ANA to allow access to the first class lounge for their passengers.

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Other oneworld airlines in Sydney and Melbourne are free to do the same but I suspect the cost increase isn't worth it hence it's cheaper for Qatar to offer a $50 food voucher instead.

Regarding Adelaide, for oneworld departures outside of the regular QP hours (eg late night Qatar flights) it's up to Qatar and Qantas to reach an agreement to keep the lounge open (which tye do). Similarly non oneworld airlines (at ADL this includes Air NZ, China Southern, Malindo and Singapore Airlines) are free to reach an agreement to accept their passengers. Air NZ use the QP and SQ use the VA lounge.

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Hi Matt,

Not directly related to OW PAX, but one correction, apparently “The House” in SYD is open according to @Nathant123 who passed through the other day:

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VFTW (Gary) has now picked this up: Link

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SYD is so dead these days you kinda don't need a lounge. just pretend the whole terminal as the lounge!

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I’m flying Qatar business next week as a Qatar Platinum member. Will let you know how I go 🤞

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Hi Matt,

Not directly related to OW PAX, but one correction, apparently “The House” in SYD is open according to @Nathant123 who passed through the other day:

Thanks for that. I've updated the article.

I’m flying Qatar business next week as a Qatar Platinum member. Will let you know how I go 🤞

If you have Oneworld Emerald, you should be fine to get into the Qantas First Lounge based on your status.

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J with no lounge access seems to be a trend. Flew out of GYD in LH J a while back and was told no lounge access, no voucher, no nothing, becausd LH had no contract. I paid to sit in the Somethingorother lounge.

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Can confirm, colleague and his wife flew last week, full fare paid J class AA, neither has status with AA or QF, and was turned away from the QF Sydney first lounge and waited in the terminal instead. Was more upset with QF than AA. Surely where OW rules say that you are entitled to a business lounge but the airline that normally operates that lounge has, for operational reasons, decided to substitute for a different lounge, for its own passengers, this would apply across the spectrum. I highly doubt the first lounge would be providing the normal 'first' experience whilst it in dual use. To add insult to injury colleague said the lounge looked empty when he was denied entry and was told that if he was QF gold status he would have been allowed entry, even if flying economy with AA.

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