Lower Frequent Flyer charges, review of International fare structure

[medhead]

You are not dealing with a mass of average-IQ customers on AFF.

Conversely, such above average IQs should be unable read and comprehend the table with ease.

I'm far from a Qantas apologist. But the table is not made for the public and it is easy to understand.

 

[exceladdict]

Would you also like QF service and amenities to drop to US carrier levels?

No problem with this at all, as long as I can use the points I'd gain from signing up to one credit card to get two return transcontinental tickets in J on an alliance carrier plus a $25 YQ.

And more in SMH today about ACC investigating.

Isn't this - and Virgin's recent and similar announcement - just an attempt to appease ACCC anyway?

 

[JohnK]

More smoke and mirrors?

FWIW Qantas is my favourite airline to fly by far. Other airlines do not come close. Clearly evident again by yesteday's HKG-SYD flight on A380. What a great all round crew.

My decision to stop purchasing Qantas international economy does not come lightly. I am seriously worried the next Platinum enhancement will mean only middle seats are available to be pre-allocated in economy.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Some good news for Qantas Frequent Flyers, and Qantas International customers: QANTAS LOWERS FREQUENT FLYER CHARGES, REVIEWS INTERNATIONAL FARE STRUCTURE

FWIW I think company reps on the forum should stick to answering questions, solving problems and the like, rather than dishing out company spin.

 

[exceladdict]

FWIW I think company reps on the forum should stick to answering questions, solving problems and the like, rather than dishing out company spin.

Still, as with the mASA enhancement, somewhat better to hear it direct.

 

[drron]

Absolutely classic smoke and mirrors.
Fuel surcharge being absorbed into the base fare so that all inclusive fare will be the same as all up fare now.
Translation.Despite the fuel price falling we will not be reducing the old fuel surcharge but we have now hidden it so you wont realise it.

Although we have absorbed the fuel charge into the base fare we will still charge you a fuel surcharge on award tickets but we will cut it a little so you think you are getting something.
Translation.Although you thought an award ticket fully covers the base fare we are changing the rules yet again.

 

[Mal]

One small step in the right direction. Not enough steps, but hopefully there will be another announcement by the end of February removing fuel surcharges completely...

 

[whatmeworry]

Australian Competition and Consumer Commission chairman Rod Sims said the regulator would query Qantas as early as this week over why a surcharge would remain in place for frequent flyer redemptions.

"We are talking about a serious amount of money," Mr Sims said of the frequent flyer fuel surcharges. "I think there are some questions here that remain to be answered."
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Qantas is lowering the fuel surcharge for frequent flyer point redemption tickets to the United States, Asia, South America and South Africa by an average of 14 per cent, but the remaining fees are still hefty. The economy and premium fuel economy surcharge on a return ticket from Australia to the mainland US will fall from $680 to $570 for frequent flyer redemptions. On its flights to the Middle East and Europe in partnership with Emirates, the fuel surcharges will remain unchanged for now.

Read more: Watchdog ACCC will probe Qantas fuel surcharges despite changes
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I see the ACCC doesn't think too highly of this Simpler and fairer, 'Enhancement'.

 

[markis10]

FWIW I think company reps on the forum should stick to answering questions, solving problems and the like, rather than dishing out company spin.

Company reps are members just like you, and are free to say what they like within the sites terms of service. The purpose of the rep tag is to provide a badge of authenticity when it comes to the right to represent a company officially, not censor information that some may or may not find helpful.

 

[cambriamarsh]

Absolutely classic smoke and mirrors.
Fuel surcharge being absorbed into the base fare so that all inclusive fare will be the same as all up fare now.
Translation.Despite the fuel price falling we will not be reducing the old fuel surcharge but we have now hidden it so you wont realise it.

Although we have absorbed the fuel charge into the base fare we will still charge you a fuel surcharge on award tickets but we will cut it a little so you think you are getting something.
Translation.Although you thought an award ticket fully covers the base fare we are changing the rules yet again.

Competition from other carriers will help pull fares back. After all no one really cares how the number is made up, the punters just want to know what it is. However the reduction in fuel surcharge does reduce cost of award flights so that's a positive.

 

[medhead]

FWIW I think company reps on the forum should stick to answering questions, solving problems and the like, rather than dishing out company spin.

Fuel surcharges on award bookings has been questioned a number of times over the years. Here is an answer from the company.

 

[RooFlyer]

<snip>However the reduction in fuel surcharge does reduce cost of award flights so that's a positive.

Just to re-iterate. Not all award flights are having even a small amount of the fuel surcharge reduced. Europe routes are not dropping by a single cent, and some classes of fares in routes which see some reductions are also not being reduced at all. Now, I want Qantas to be profitable, but this IMHO is just naked greed. And even that's OK, as I have the choice to fly the greedy airline or not. But what I can't stomach is the spin and clever words put out by their marketing department to try to disguise the fact that the airline is going to pocket just about all the benefits of lower fuel costs AND they are trying to tell the world what a generous bunch they are.

Seeing the glass half full is admirable, but as you gaze at the glass, beware of that hand opening up your purse/wallet.

 

[Cool Cat Phil]

I like the looks of the Good reduction in taxes/surcharges on classic award bookings to Johannesburg , particularly the PE & J cabins.

 

[markis10]

BNE-mel for two has gone from $70 odd to $66 overnight in terms of the taxes on two reward seats one way.

 

[Cool Cat Phil]

BNE-mel for two has gone from $70 odd to $66 overnight in terms of the taxes on two reward seats one way.

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[UP4014]

Still, as with the mASA enhancement, somewhat better to hear it direct.

Do you think, I think it makes no difference.

 

[markis10]

Do you think, I think it makes no difference.

It makes all the difference, the better the variety of content provided the less chance of missing important changes or getting a rehashed pr piece which gets it wrong, like the SA code share with VA that had some "news" blogs inferring it was two way with velocity.

 

[UP4014]

It makes all the difference, the better the variety of content provided the less chance of missing important changes or getting a rehashed pr piece which gets it wrong, like the SA code share with VA that had some "news" blogs inferring it was two way with velocity.

I just skim the emails from QF, a VA code share has no interest for me and I probably only read about 30% of threads here.

I'm not sure how the 'better variety of content......less chance of missing important changes' makes sense, to me anyway.

I'd like to see QF posting here about things like the trial of rear stairs to speed things up, but they don't, just the same media release we get via email. There is no added value AFF is just another outlet for the same info.

Each to his or her own.


Matt

 

[MarcB]

I'm still seeing the same co-payment for USA classic awards as I was yesterday ($386USD ex USA/$415AUD ex AU). Is it just me? Or have the reductions not flowed through yet?

 

[RooFlyer]

I'm still seeing the same co-payment for USA classic awards as I was yesterday ($386USD ex USA/$415AUD ex AU). Is it just me? Or have the reductions not flowed through yet?

They said it would take some time to filter through . I wonder how long it will take to filter through to TPAC ?