Trumps executive order USA entry for potential terrorists from certain countries

[drron]

As it is said in the Italian classic, Il Gattopardo, "Se vogliamo che tutto rimanga come è, bisogna che tutto cambi."

Che cosa se ne farebbe il Senato di me, di un legislatore inesperto cui manca la facoltà d'ingannare sé stesso, questo requisito essenziale per chi voglia guidare gli altri?

 

[RooFlyer]

I'll just quote Manuel.

"Que?"

 

[Quickstatus]

Luckily Google does a fair job. (Thanks Sergey)

Che cosa se ne farebbe il Senato di me, di un legislatore inesperto cui manca la facoltà d'ingannare sé stesso, questo requisito essenziale per chi voglia guidare gli altri?

What if the Senate would make me, an inexperienced legislator who lacks the faculty of self-deception, this essential requirement for those who wish to lead others?

 

[Quickstatus]

The rank hypocrisy of the Left.

Clinton gets a standing ovation for this but Trump gets called a racist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3yesvvYEvs

 

[hedge]

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Maybe he should have stuck with the often peddled "mental illness" excuse!

They found the shooter to be a native quebecois Canadian - Alexandre Bissonnette.

To be fair I don't think (most of) the left are particularly enamoured with most of the countries you talk about either. The difference is that US holds itself up as a bastion of freedom and possibly even equality. And what's more they allow people to by and large freely protest, which is something that the countries who ban Jews don't tend to allow either. Hence there is limited outlets for affecting any sort of protest let alone change in the countries of concern.

And whilst there are some on the left that are indeed intolerant and hateful the majority with left leanings (but perhaps not hardcore) probably just want a fair go for all and want some form of truth ... it seems that media and the trumpocracy are both difficult to believe and the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Personally, the thing that would appear most concerning about the whole issue is it's rushed implementation ... one of the biggest concerns about Trump, from both sides, is his preparedness and willingness to shoot from the hip, so to speak. This does nothing to dispel those concerns.

Totally agree with this. Many people are justifying the US Immigration executive order with statements that say that the 'banned countries' have terrible reputations on human rights along with a myriad of other reasons. Yes, they may have poor human rights, but it's no reason for us to stoop that low and ban all citizens of those countries to enter the US. If you have Iranian heritage, you can't renounce your citizenship, it is impossible, despite how "Iranian" you are. To judge all of their (the 7 banned countries) citizens based upon the general interpretation of their countries would be just as bad.

 

[get me outta here]

The Iraqis fighting IS alongside the US troops have been labelled terrorists. That is an interesting 'strategic' move.

 

[Cruiser Elite]

The Iraqis fighting IS alongside the US troops have been labelled terrorists. That is an interesting 'strategic' move.

What is ever going to make sense with this 'numb nut' - now we might not even contest the court ruling - we'll draft another Exec Order - and now the US Court System is 'broken' - just give it time - hopefully enough of the 23% of the sadly delusional eligible US voters who put him in this position which he is so totally incapable of effectively fulfilling will join forces with enough of the other 77% to turf him out.

The world awaits with eager anticipation.

 

[serfty]

... the 23% of the sadly delusional eligible US voters who put him in this position which he is so totally incapable of effectively fulfilling will join forces with enough of the other 77% to turf him out.
...

Maybe it was the 48.0% of eligible electors who did not vote for either who can be blamed. When all said and done, 26.5% of them voted Democrat (25.5% Republican).

 

[get me outta here]

I thought Clinton won the popular votes by x millions?

 

[serfty]

I thought Clinton won the popular votes by x millions?

2,868,519 out of 137,908,601 at last count.

Rounding, that is 3M out of 138M votes cast or 3M out of 241M possible voters.

 

[drron]

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