I flew 11 hours in a narrow-body and didn't hate it

[Mattg]

That's really not accurate. I'm fortunate enough to usually snag row 4 on a the QF 737s. On transcon flights with a proper meal service I can be served my meal and finished it (say 15-20 minutes) while the trolleys are still in the aisle towards the back.

Now imagine a long haul flight where the trolley comes out first for drinks and then dinner. That scenario could easily mean no access to the rear toilets for a good hour. Can you imagine the outrage from the J pax as Y pax have no option but to use the forward toilet?

Putting another toilet towards the front/middle of the Y cabin (on an A321XLR, for example) would help to avoid this scenario.

I know that some airlines (like Swiss or Air NZ) already have a toilet near doors 3 on the A321, i.e. 2/3 way down the plane.

 

[Forg]

An able-bodied person can still, with admittedly a bit of fuss, squeeze past the trolley can’t they?
I’m sure I’ve seen it done, although I can’t visualise it … I’ve definitely seen the trolley-wielders roll it back to the galley to let someone go, it’s only an average of 15 rows I guess.

 

[Quickstatus]

Can you imagine the outrage from the J pax as Y pax have no option but to use the forward toilet?

They should be able to use the forward toilet. No airline should be able to restrict access to toilets. A toilet is a toilet
Additionally, I don't recall that J product marketing ever mention exclusive toilet access. I know they restrict toilet access to passengers outside of the relevant cabin but IMO they should not be allowed.

That scenario could easily mean no access to the rear toilets for a good hour.

Ive never actually seen that problem. The CC just moves the trolley up or down the aisle a bit. Toilets at both ends of the aircraft solves that issue - if indeed its a significant issue.

 

[Daver6]

They should be able to use the forward toilet. No airline should be able to restrict access to toilets. A toilet is a toilet
Additionally, I don't recall that J product marketing ever mention exclusive toilet access. I know they restrict toilet access to passengers outside of the relevant cabin but IMO they should not be allowed.


Ive never actually seen that problem. The CC just moves the trolley up or down the aisle a bit. Toilets at both ends of the aircraft solves that issue - if indeed its a significant issue.

Have you not seen the number of posts on AFF about Y pax using the J bathroom?

Some cabin crew get pretty narky if you try use the aisle when the trolleys are out. Some airlines even make an announcement requesting that you don't.

 

[frodo]

I would have no issues doing long haul in a narrowbody in business class.

In economy class though, I would absolutely try to avoid it for the following reasons:
- Passengers per aisle #1 - 6 passengers per row for 1 aisle compared to 4 or 5 on a widebody, meaning that you have more passengers using the aisle compared to a widebody.
- Passengers per aisle #2 - Based on most current configs, there would be more passengers walking through the whole cabin to get to the toilets as they have to go all the way down to the back, increasing foot traffic even more. Sure that's all good if you have row 4, but in row 25?
- Lack of space #1 - Less room to walk around and stretch out (galley, emergency exit areas)
- Lack of space #2 - There is a perceived lack of space due to the narrowbody config - might not affect everyone but personally I like the sense of space on a widebody
- Lack of space #3 - As mentioned by another poster earlier, headroom in window seats is less due to the narrowbody config
- Ride quality - smaller plane vs bigger plane

And this is without mentioning the seating/IFE config because those can be changed for long haul configs.

 

[Quickstatus]

Have you not seen the number of posts on AFF about Y pax using the J bathroom?

Yea I have and I am on the side of toilets being accessible to any passenger.

Some cabin crew get pretty narky if you try use the aisle when the trolleys are out. Some airlines even make an announcement requesting that you don't.

I've seen the opposite where CC are more than happy to move the trolleys up and down a bit to let a passenger through.

This is a mountain out of a molehill.