Oz Federal Election 2013 - Discussion and Comments

[amaroo]

He made Gough Whitlam look conservative!

Gough has lived long enough to see/read/believe - that he is now the third worst PM the county has ever seen.

I kinda feel happy for him.

 

[cove]

Me too! I got to meet him at the Opera House and he really had charisma. Being off the top of the worst list is wonderful.

 

[Hvr]

Gough has lived long enough to see/read/believe - that he is now the third worst PM the county has ever seen.

I kinda feel happy for him.

So where would Johnny Howard rank? Number one or two? And surely Billy McMahon would fill the other spot in the top three?

 

[cove]

We could have a contest for the stupidest thing said by a Prime Minister as a thread!
That could be fun while we wait for Rudd to announce an election date.

 

[Moody]

We could have a contest for the stupidest thing said by a Prime Minister as a thread!
That could be fun while we wait for Rudd to announce an election date.

Why go to all that bother - there are far more ignorant and nonsensical comments to be found on this thread than have ever been uttered by our various leaders. But if you were to broaden the net to include all MPs ..... then you might have a decent competition. I claim first dibs on Barnaby (is that the chattanooga choo-choo) Joyce!

 

[amaroo]

So where would Johnny Howard rank? Number one or two? And surely Billy McMahon would fill the other spot in the top three?

Billy was bad - IMO a dead set certainty to hold the No 1 position for the Libs and a very fair No 4 behind the top three ALP ticket holders.

 

[medhead]

Billy was bad - IMO a dead set certainty to hold the No 1 position for the Libs and a very fair No 4 behind the top three ALP ticket holders.

Yeah. What a joke. Typical biased opinion from a blind liberal supporter.

 

[amaroo]

Yeah. What a joke. Typical biased opinion from a blind liberal supporter.

Don't fret - it's only a matter of time before the next Curtin appears

 

[HarryB]

Oh Joe ... You got pwned by Penny Wong (credit to my teenage son for the Internet speak)

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-...n-background-of-candidate-john-nguyen/4863304

 

[erkpod]

Rudd wants to go to the G20 so with that being Sept 5 and 6 the date of the election remains uncertain.

So the election will obviously be after the G20. You can't go to the G20 if you're not in government (as is my understanding).

 

[quokka77]

Kevin may decide to go to the polls 7 September. Not sure who they would send to the g20 if that were the case. Can't imagine both leaders agreeing to attend as part of caretaker government provisions, so maybe they would send a senior diplomat or the GG? Tricky situation.

 

[amaroo]

Oh Joe ... You got pwned by Penny Wong (credit to my teenage son for the Internet speak)

A national comedian group has come with a very funny nick name for Penny I can't be bothered posting it here due to the indignant outrage that is sure to follow.

 

[Moody]

A national comedian group has come with a very funny nick name for Penny I can't be bothered posting it here due to the indignant outrage that is sure to follow.

Congratulations imaroo - you have just won the "Most pointless post" award. Not bad going on a thread with 5000+ entries ....

 

[amaroo]

Congratulations imaroo - you have just won the "Most pointless post" award. Not bad going on a thread with 5000+ entries ....

Hahahaha this thread is in the playground section for a reason. LOL

 

[Skyring]

So the election will obviously be after the G20. You can't go to the G20 if you're not in government (as is my understanding).

Today (and Monday if everyone gets their act together) sees the chance of a 7 September election. If Rudd does nothing this weekend, then he's set on Gillard's date - which he's pretty much ruled out - or he gets into the footy finals season.

Interesting that Rudd has never called an election. In 2006 he was expected to return from holidays fresh for an early 2007 election. He would have won if he had gone then. Instead he sat on his hands, did nothing and watched as the polls dropped to the point that Gillard declared that his government had lost its way and took over.

That's where Rudd fails as a leader. He doesn't actually do anything much. He talks about things, but he squanders opportunities. Remember when he was elected? He had a massive mandate, huge popular support, every State and Territory government onside. These are the sort of circumstances when everything aligns perfectly that very rarely occur for any Prime Minister. These are the times to bring in bold initiatives, to change the Constitution, to implement reforms.

Gough seized the moment. Hawke likewise. They got things done.

Rudd talked about a lot of stuff but nothing happened. Apart from pink batts, school halls and $900 freebies.

He had Malcolm Turnbull as Opposition Leader for a while. You'd think he would have pushed for a republican change to the Constitution. With bipartisan support and a good model it would have gotten up. But no...

Rudd sits in the big chair, delivers impressive speeches, gets everybody running around, and yet when you check back in a few months, a year, three years, nothing has changed. Apart from the number of foreign junkets. That number keeps on going up. His attention isn't on Australia. It's fixed on the image of Kevin Rudd, world statesman, civilising <people from countries> who laugh at him.

 

[Limewood]

Wonder how many more billions $ he will spend on projects up till election time?.

 

[medhead]

Whitlam's change was also the path to his downfall. Too much change too quickly and not bring the country with him. Having said that, in hindsight he made many great changes which makes the liberal accusations of worst PM laughable.

Hawke lead the country to change and took a longer time to implement change. Rudd has avoid the first mistake, for whatever reason. He can make the flowery speeches but even if the majority buys his reason for change the implementation turns into a dogs breakfast. Main because of Abbott 3 word catchphrases that are more about Abbott gaining power than the good of the country.

Gillard was another Whitlam. Good policy but no selling.

 

[BadgerBoi]

Rudd wants to go to the G20 so with that being Sept 5 and 6 the date of the election remains uncertain.
The FBT thingy does not affect us as all our cars are on log books and have been since that tax was invented.
Ruddy needs a bit of time to whitewash his $250 billion spending spree from last time when he declared that he was a fiscal conservative then spent faster than Whitlam ever could.
He made Gough Whitlam look conservative!

meh, so did that old fraud John Howard. Nobody viewed Australia as his own personal piggy bank the way Howard did.

 

[Pukka]

meh, so did that old fraud John Howard. Nobody viewed Australia as his own personal piggy bank the way Howard did.

I think Eddie Obeid wins that race

 

[medhead]

I think Eddie Obeid wins that race

Not really. Nsw is not Australia. And obeid's not a politician. But in fact one of those god honest business owners that we are all supposed to worship.