Coronavirus (COVID-19) Respiratory illness - Effect on Travel

[lovetravellingoz]

The first fleet?

*ducks*

No as they mainly came to stay including one on my wife's forebears.

Though I do have a distant relative that popped along the coast before then renaming places as he went.

 

[drron]

Bali hotels are suffering.

At least 60 hotels in Bali up for sale due to COVID-19 struggles: hotel association | Coconuts

The province reportedly hemorrhages about IDR10 trillion (US$711 million) in losses monthly amid the COVID-19 pandemic.

coconuts.co

And struggling in Malaysia.

Hotel group urges immediate assistance under MCO 2.0

PETALING JAYA: The Malaysian Association of Hotels (MAH) has urged the government to provide immediate assistance to the industry following the extension of the movement control order to Feb 18.

www.thestar.com.my

 

[drron]

More Covid effects.TG retiring thei entire A380 fleet.

Sad: Thai Airways Retiring Airbus A380 Fleet

Thai Airways plans to retire its entire Airbus A380 fleet. Along with Boeing 747s being retired, Thai will no longer offer first class.

onemileatatime.com

And taxes go up at LHR with a new Covid tax.

Heathrow Airport Adds New Tax Due To Coronavirus

Heathrow Airport is adding a new passenger tax due to reduced passenger numbers resulting from the coronavirus pandemic.

onemileatatime.com

 

[exceladdict]

 

[drron]

Hotels doing badly in Ireland.

Hotel summer bookings at just 20% - IHF

Hotels and guesthouses around the country are reporting average booking levels for July and August of just 20%, according to the Irish Hotels Federation.

www.rte.ie

And Manhattan.18 hotels have now closed permanently.

Manhattan Lodging Index: Q2 2024

A recap of the operating performance of hotels and sub-market trends, the transactions environment, supply pipeline and more.

www.pwc.com

And don't take the free HQ in Thailand if you get there.Not very nice and can get you into trouble.

Thai Quarantine Hotel Sues Man For Complaining, Accusing Him Of Defamation

A hotel in Thailand is threatening to sue a man for defamation after he complained about the quality of accommodations during his quarantine.

onemileatatime.com

And don't try and bribe your way into Hawaii.

Travelers Arrested For Attempted $3,000 Hawaii Entry Bribe

Two travelers from Louisiana tried to bribe their way into Hawaii. They didn't want to quarantine, so offered airport screeners $3,000.

onemileatatime.com

 

[Must...Fly!]

Hard to believe I was on holiday in New York just 12 months ago with those figures @drron

As for the couple. It's not even that hard to enter Hawaii legally from the continental USA. Their system is pretty good, if you accept living with the virus as the default.

 

[Lynda2475]

I thought free hotel in thailand was only for nationals. There was a review saying how good Thailand hq is for foreigners last week, becuase its paid and hotels are competing for customers.

I went through Thailand's hotel quarantine system. This is how it compares to Australia's

With hotel quarantine one of the only income streams right now for Bangkok hotels, many are trying their best to book guests. Some offer exercise bikes and rowing machines in rooms, while the more expensive options allow some guests a daily walk around their sprawling gardens, writes Mazoe Ford.

www.abc.net.au

 

[drron]

Although an American the fellow had lived in Thailand for many years.

 

[Lynda2475]

You get what you pay for. With an ability to choose your hotel, why would anyone who could afford to travel risk a govt default choice?

 

[drron]

Japan has had a huge drop in visitor numbers.


But they still want to go ahead with the Olympics.

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

Most borders around the world still have restictions.


And the Times Square Edition hotel announced initially with great fanfare by Marriott looks likely to go under.

Times Square Luxury Hotel Moves Step Closer to Foreclosure Sale

(Bloomberg) -- A Times Square hotel and retail property once valued at more than $2 billion is a step closer to foreclosure after a court victory for a group of lenders led by Natixis SA.The court granted the lenders the right to foreclose on the property, which features the 42-story Times...

finance.yahoo.com

 

[drron]

So Qatar is being added to the UK red list so will disrupt QR and add to the problems of Aussies wanting to come home.

Ouch: UK Bans Qatar Airways Flights Indefinitely

Here's why the UK is banning Qatar Airways flights as of later this week. Yes, the airline can't even carry transit passengers.

onemileatatime.com

Europe has put out a document discussing travel arrangements such as quarantine and testing.You can access it by clicking on document in this article.

Europe Revises Travel Guidance During the COVID-19 Pandemic

Travel measures, such as quarantine and diagnostic testing, are designed to reduce the likelihood of SARS-CoV-2 transmission before, during, and after international travel, says the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC).

www.coronavirustoday.com

Though there is a booming trade in false vaccine documents.

Fake COVID-19 Vaccination Certificates Will Hinder International Travel

Airport officials are increasingly uncovering fake COVID-19 test result certificates, reported Reuters. “Normally, the way this counterfeit is spotted is an obvious spelling error,” said Lucy Moreton, an official with the Immigration Services Union, representing border officials at London’s...

www.coronavirustoday.com

 

[Pushka]

So Qatar is being added to the UK red list so will disrupt QR and add to the problems of Aussies wanting to come home.

Damn. Once UK has things as under control as they can be, they will become extremely protective of that, just like we are in Australia.

 

[Gremlin]

Damn. Once UK has things as under control as they can be, they will become extremely protective of that, just like we are in Australia.

I think that might be the elephant in the room for the travel industry. I suspect most governments worldwide are looking at vaccines as a measure to return domestic life to normal as a first priority. I wouldn't be surprised to see an initial move towards tightening, not loosening, border restrictions in countries with high vaccination levels.

 

[Lynda2475]

Damn. Once UK has things as under control as they can be, they will become extremely protective of that, just like we are in Australia.

If QF would reinstate direct flights say once a week that risk could go away. In the time of Covid direct routes are king, of course that would require WA to guarantee to accept the flight.

 

[dajop]

If QF would reinstate direct flights say once a week that risk could go away. In the time of Covid direct routes are king, of course that would require WA to guarantee to accept the flight.

They more or less are doing this. upping charter flights to DRW, to 20/month, I am sure at least 1-2 a week will be from LHR.

 

[Lynda2475]

They more or less are doing this. upping charter flights to DRW, to 20/month, I am sure at least 1-2 a week will be from LHR.

Are the LHR to DRW direct? I thought they had a stopover?

The charter flights are only for repatriation via Howard Springs, there are still many other arrivals on commercial flights into mainland capitals except Melbourne.

 

[dajop]

Are the LHR to DRW direct? I thought they had a stopover?

The charter flights are only for repatriation via Howard Springs, there are still many other arrivals on commercial flights into mainland capitals except Melbourne.

Non-stop LHR to DRW

QF110 (QFA110) Qantas Flight Tracking and History - FlightAware

Track Qantas (QF) #110 flight from London Heathrow to Darwin Int'l / RAAF

flightaware.com

Of course there are many arrivals into other capitals but you had suggested that QF to start up a regular weekly service to PER to bring people from UK, which is happening, but to (the more reliable facility at ) DRW than being at the whim of the WA government into PER. This service is also not taking up existing quarantine places in other capitals.

 

[dajop]

You know you aren’t alone here.

Yesterday in UK my son and partner travelled to see his partners parents in Kent. Even though they live in the same country she hadn’t seen them in a year as being older they were in full lockdown.

A close colleague of mine who lives maybe 40km from her parents as the crow flies. They are in Malaysia and she is in Singapore and also hasn't seen them for over a year as well. Although I will say there is a degree of risk aversion there (in terms of fear of getting stuck and having to do 2 x quarantine), if it were me I would have found a way. Also have Australian colleagues who haven't seen their parents/extended family in well over 12 months since their last visit to Australia (they hadn't been back for 6 months already when COVID hit) ..... again a high degree of risk aversion , I've been back twice since COVID began. Different folk have different circumstances (financial, work, etc) and different tolerance for risk.

 

[Pushka]

A close colleague of mine who lives maybe 40km from her parents as the crow flies. They are in Malaysia and she is in Singapore and also hasn't seen them for over a year as well. Although I will say there is a degree of risk aversion there (in terms of fear of getting stuck and having to do 2 x quarantine), if it were me I would have found a way. Also have Australian colleagues who haven't seen their parents/extended family in well over 12 months since their last visit to Australia (they hadn't been back for 6 months already when COVID hit) ..... again a high degree of risk aversion , I've been back twice since COVID began. Different folk have different circumstances (financial, work, etc) and different tolerance for risk.

The older I get the riskier I am. Go figure. . Maybe because I have less time I want to make the most of it. Where there’s a will there’s a way. And all that.

 

[tgh]

there is a strong possibility he will come to Australia in July

That sounds optimistic to me but #1 son also says they intend come home for Xmas .

Imo he is dreaming, our vaccination programme will dawdle along for at least another year at least
Do folks expect the feds to ease ingress without having their constituents protected ?